Intangible Assets 2 (Details) (USD $)
3 Months Ended 6 Months Ended
Apr. 30, 2013
Apr. 30, 2012
Apr. 30, 2013
Apr. 30, 2012
Amortization Expense        
Amortizing intangible assets amortization expense $ 2,400,000 $ 2,000,000 $ 4,500,000 $ 4,000,000
Estimated amortization expense        
Remaining 2013 4,717,000   4,717,000  
2014 9,408,000   9,408,000  
2015 9,183,000   9,183,000  
2016 8,741,000   8,741,000  
2017 8,628,000   8,628,000  
2018 $ 8,188,000   $ 8,188,000