Non-operating income (expense) (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Thousands
12 Months Ended
Oct. 31, 2016
Oct. 31, 2015
Oct. 31, 2014
Non-operating income (expense)      
Interest and other income $ 11,515 $ 9,346 $ 8,182
Net losses on investments and derivatives (116) (9,151) (6,946)
Net foreign currency gains (losses) 1,012 (226) (97)
Gains (losses) and other investment income, net 12,411 (31) 1,139
Interest expense (29,410) (29,357) (29,892)
Other income (expense) of consolidated collateralized loan obligation ("CLO") entities:      
Interest income 17,975 3,467 16,174
Net gains (losses) on bank loans, other investments, note obligations and preferred shares 6,094 1,625 (1,282)
Gains and other investment income, net 24,069 5,092 14,892
Structuring and closing fees 0 (2,359) (4,847)
Interest expense (13,286) (4,408) (10,000)
Total non-operating expense $ (6,216) $ (31,063) $ (28,708)