Acquisitions, Goodwill and Intangible Assets 4 (Details) (USD $)
12 Months Ended
Oct. 31, 2011
Oct. 31, 2010
Oct. 31, 2009
Amortization Expense      
Amortizing intangilbe assets amortization expense $ 7,900,000 $ 7,800,000 $ 6,900,000
Estimated amortization expense      
2012 7,995,000    
2013 7,995,000    
2014 7,968,000    
2015 7,743,000    
2016 $ 7,301,000